Curse

MagmaRed · Dec 04, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Fail less and win Halls a couple of times? Used to be the only way if you weren't willing to PvE.

Its easier than that. Do the zaishen quests (the PvP ones) and get items with the coins to sell. Equipment packs, tomes, tonics, etc. can all be sold fairly easily.

jray14 · Dec 04, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Is that what the update functionally did?

Nope, it's still possible to change all the game passwords linked to an NCSOFT account without entering any of the current passwords first. (You only need the master NCSOFT account password to login in the first place). Ridiculous but true.

I have no idea what that update a couple days ago did.

Martin Alvito · Dec 04, 2009, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by jray14

(You only need the master NCSOFT account password to login in the first place).

You don't need that. See other thread on the Dec 2 update. All that must be done is brute force your birthday. And one can generate valid usernames with a bot without ever leaving that website.

I was under the impression that the system sends an e-mail with the temp password? That's what the FAQ claims. Or is that only for a reset?

Quinlan Vos · Dec 05, 2009, 01:08 PM // 13:08

I doubt anyone can anymore say that it's a technical problem. It's been seven months down and would've been fixed if they're about to fix it. I'm assuming it's taken down for economy sake and tbh that's a good decision. In addition to Factions colletor's edition etc. it's basicly buying ig money with rl one.

coil · Dec 05, 2009, 08:00 PM // 20:00

too bad i decide i may as well attempt to max zaishen after all the key sources get taken away

do people realize though that the XTH, even if it is "buying ingame money", generated at least a small interest in pvp from those who would never really care otherwise?

that, imo, is good for the game.

Karate Jesus · Dec 10, 2009, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Hey guys! I have some incredibly important news on this topic directly from Regina!!!

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Originally Posted by Regina

I'm sorry to say, but there is no news that I can discuss in public about XTH. I'm sorry that this answer doesn't satisfy the request for information... The Live Team is aware that players continually ask us about XTH... But unfortunately I have no news.

Well, happy 7 month anniversary The Fail of XTH. Let's hope you don't make it a year.

Daesu · Dec 10, 2009, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Well, happy 7 month anniversary The Fail of XTH. Let's hope you don't make it a year.

I wont be surprised even if it takes more than a year. This game is controlled by farmers: no zkeys, no XTH, no UW, no SF, no Ursan, no DoA, ....the game is actually shrinking.

mrvrod · Dec 10, 2009, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Everyone needs to stop deluding themselves. XTH predictions are not coming back! They made that decision when they removed Kun Shao. Anet will not announce it, they'll just wait for the anet attack sheep to beat back any complainer until all is quiet again.

And only a child - who has the campaigns and expansions, store upgrades, internet connection, wireless headsets, and all the other crap that comes with being a dedicated GW player, being bought by their parents - could have audacity to call ANYTHING in GW FREE!

Nerel · Dec 10, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Daesu

I wont be surprised even if it takes more than a year. This game is controlled by farmers: no zkeys, no XTH, no UW, no SF, no Ursan, no DoA, ....the game is actually shrinking.

If the game was controlled by farmers, as you claim, surely Sf wouldn't be going anywhere, surely DoA would still be very active... and zkeys are still in the game so I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you means masses of free keys being dumped into the economy every month courtesy of the XTH...

Yes, the game is shrinking, GW is a dead game, blah, blah, blah.

Thank you for my daily dose of troll.

If the XTH does return, and I can't say I care if it doesn't, let's hope the reward system has changed or the XTH zaishen keys are non-transferable.

BoxOfCox · Dec 10, 2009, 07:38 AM // 07:38

ITT: PvE'rs are mad because they feel entitled to free money every month.

Nerel · Dec 10, 2009, 08:11 AM // 08:11

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Originally Posted by BoxOfCox

ITT: PvE'rs are mad because they feel entitled to free money every month.

Nonsense, lazy ass'es with a sense of entitlement are mad, many PvE'ers opposed the XTH when it was operational and spoke out against it, just as many now hope it doesn't make a return. But thank you for reinforcing the pvp vs pve divide.

Daesu · Dec 10, 2009, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Nerel

If the game was controlled by farmers, as you claim, surely Sf wouldn't be going anywhere,

Because hardcore farmers dont need to rely on SF, why should they when they have so many other farming builds and an active farming guild to back them up if needed? Sure, without SF UW runs would go slower, but they can still clear it with alternative team builds with an active farming guild rather than having to rely on pugs.

If the non-hardcore farmers, who rely on SF, are removed from the UW picture then the price of their ectos go up. $$$

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surely DoA would still be very active... and zkeys are still in the game so I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you means masses of free keys being dumped into the economy every month courtesy of the XTH...

Similarly, DoA is still being cleared by active PvE guilds, some even on a regular basis. The biggest problem with DoA is, it is now almost impossible to PUG there successfully.

Why did some people petition Ursan to be nerfed? So that the price of torment gems would go up, for those who have the capability to continue playing in DoA, that is a good thing. Too bad for the people who needed the old Ursan PUGs to clear DoA.

It is interesting to see how ANet destroys their own game one elite area at a time, making them virtual ghost towns except for the most hardcore PvE guilds, and stop supporting features like XTH. There are now fewer and fewer features to play. Thank you ANet.

Premium Unleaded · Dec 10, 2009, 03:22 PM // 15:22

ANet should have just deleted PvE

Nerel · Dec 10, 2009, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Oh I see, so it's not that farmers control the game, but a very small group of uber hardcore farmers who want all popular farming builds nerfed so just they and their elite cadre of hardcore *snicker* pve buddies can have free run of the highend market place?

No you're right, that doesn't sound like an insane conspiracy theory at all...

I don't see how removing, or not supporting the XTH means there are fewer features in the game to play. Last time I looked you didn't 'play' the XTH in 'the game', no... you went to the GW website and spent your time 'not playing the game' while entering your selection of possible MAT winners... though I can see how that might seem to be playing Guild Wars for someone who bought ten or so accounts just for the XTH...

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Originally Posted by Premium Unleaded

ANet should have just deleted PvE

Yep, I'm sure the remaining sub 10% of the gaming population could have kept Anet afloat financially. Or did you mean something else?

jamal555 · Dec 10, 2009, 05:20 PM // 17:20

haha biggest troll gathering of qq trolls and omg trolls...

its a game... relax... pixels pixels... its not EVEN real

lots of things in gw come free, but only thing u are really paying is your time waisted playing it...
when u get to the point u start to pearticipate in "the discussion above" u need to quit...
its no longer fun its a full time job for u... and u dont get paid for it do u?

there are more games on the market, and a thing called LIFE, work, girls, cars, money, food... whatever thats far more important to think about then farming builds and lag in cyberspace...

unless u are anet employee in whitch case i understand.. U GET PAID FOR IT...

Reflect · Dec 10, 2009, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Premium Unleaded

ANet should have just deleted PvE

or just perma ban'd you...much better

Coney · Dec 10, 2009, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by Quinlan Vos

I'm assuming it's taken down for economy sake

I LOL'd when I read this.

All they had to do was *ROLL BACK* to the prior system, which was working marginally (but CLEARLY much better than the new system that they CONTRACTED OUT).

Why did I LOL? Because "no XTH" means people will NOT be buying additional accounts, which means LESS REVENUE/INCOME. Had XTH continued to run, I might have tossed another $50-100 at additional accounts for zKeys over the past 7 months (kinda smells like a $15/month subscription fee, don't it?!?).

People scoff at buying in-game e-cash with real $cash$. However, this is the *FUTURE* of online MMORPG. Why do you think most have monthly charges, and additional charges for *EPIX* items?!?

Daesu · Dec 11, 2009, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Nerel

Oh I see, so it's not that farmers control the game, but a very small group of uber hardcore farmers who want all popular farming builds nerfed so just they and their elite cadre of hardcore *snicker* pve buddies can have free run of the highend market place?

No you're right, that doesn't sound like an insane conspiracy theory at all...

No that is fact, not a theory. There are posts made here that people have expressed raising the price of torment gems by nerfing Ursan.

No matter what you say, I still enjoy and support XTH. Even though I dont trade any zkeys.

Nerel · Dec 11, 2009, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by Daesu

No that is fact, not a theory. There are posts made here that people have expressed raising the price of torment gems by nerfing Ursan.

No matter what you say, I still enjoy and support XTH. Even though I dont trade any zkeys.

It's a fact? The thing about facts is that they are verifiable... that is how they differ from opinions, insane rants and conspiracy theories.

By all means, show me the proof that ArenaNet's decision making process with regards to skill/game balancing is being made by a small minority of Uber leet pve farmers, determined to stomp out the ability of the rest of us to farm effectively, while giving them some sort of monopoly on shiny pixels.

Where is this cabal of leet PvE decision makers? Do they have a secret hand shake? You do realize how insane this sounds?

It's nice to see that you'd welcome the return of the XTH with non tradable Z-keys that can only be used on the account that 'won' them. I wouldn't mind that either.

AKB48 · Dec 11, 2009, 03:48 AM // 03:48

FREE ZKEYS PLZ!

lol.